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| The best family home evening Ever! Andrew - 3/23/2018 The acceptance of these invitations from the leadership authority by the proclaimed past Apostle Orson Pratt who was set apart and ordained an Elder in the Mormon church "... If, after a rigid examination, it be found an imposition, it should be extensively published to the world as such; the evidences and arguments on which the imposture was detected, should be clearly and logically? stated, that those who have been unfortunately deceived, may perceive the nature of deception, and be reclaimed, and those who continue to publish the delusion may be exposed and silenced..".- Apostle Orson Pratt, Divine Authenticity of the Book of Mormon, Liverpool, 1851, pp. 1-2 Convince us of our errors of Doctrine, if we have any, by reason, by logical arguments, or by the Word of God and we will ever be grateful for the information and you will ever have the pleasing reflections that you have been instruments in the hands of God of redeeming your fellow beings. - Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 15 I have accepted this invitation and here is where I offer it in the Spirit and method requested. Sadly and by many lawful points witnessed this invitation has been taken up by many before I was even born, however the truth yet again has been ignored and rejected by the hard of hearing and the blindness caused through sin and unbelief and the transgression of the commandment given by God the Father through His beloved Son to believe solely in Him for His completed Salvation marked by His absence from earth and the empty cross of Christ’s finished work and by countless attempts to clearly show in the Spirit and love of God the falseness and doctrinal error’s revealed and shown over many years to the Mormon leadership which has been continually rejected and denied by them denying its members it professes to love and lead to salvation from finding and examining and claiming the truth themselves, these men are deceived and therefore liars and enemy’s to the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ. This is a Lawful stand, lived and died for. Proverbs 3:5-7 KJV 5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. I sincerely invite any member of the Mormon church in the Spirit and intention requested to bring any that take up this challenge to allow yourself to be enabled and emboldened to come nearer to Jesus Christ and to receive forever the surety of Salvation in this life, to receive it and claim it forever, never to be lost from the hand of God Almighty (John 10:28-29 KJV.) , that His Word and His truth will set you free from any yoke that binds your heart mind and soul keeping you away from Him for He is jealous to be your sole governing head and to rob a lying leadership of your hearts minds and souls being lead down to hell and the eternal second death which Word of God cannot be unbroken lawfully not by man and not by devils, not by any thing or by any lie in existence, period, I would stand alone in a court of law against every church leader and member with my Lawful bible in my hand, heart and mind and soul to convict this guilty body of blasphemy, apostasy, treason and all the crimes from the consequences of this wicked lie and so could any child of Jesus Christ in God the Father with His authorized preserved Word in hand. But alas the opportunity continually denied and therefore dishonest or backed up and stood by, by today’s current leadership and false apostles of Christ‘s light, I offer it to those that want to see and hear and who truly love the Lord and God they proclaim to believe and represent. I invite any God fearing Mormon member to take my place upon the stand in front of the judge and by the hand of Christ, to begin to examine the evidence lawfully presented, I invite anyone taking up this challenge to become the accused being their own defense attorney and to honestly in Godly fear, examine the evidence presented and to lawfully trust the Word of God by having faith in Christ alone and His Word alone, over all else to be your Judge, jury and defense attorney in this sole matter of your salvation that you may reach a lawful an faithful verdict, unmovable and unwavering and unshakeable for your self today and if it is lawfully found that you are exonerated, then your faith in Jesus Christ would be increased and if you where to be found guilty, then your faith in Jesus Christ will be increased, therefore what have you to lose but your soul for not trusting God and His Word, written and living today for all to be saved. 1Timothy 2:1-6 KJV If any member or soul that desires to take the stand in the confines of their own homes and sanctuaries then consider the Word of God given to Paul the Apostleof Christ from the book of Corinthians. 2 Corinthians 13:1 KJV 1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. We all know and would not deny and dismiss so easily without thorough examination the evidence presented by a forensic presentation of lawful evidence for the conviction of a serious crime and offense, the Word of God is no different to forensic evidence in a lawful court of Law, God is just and would not lie and cannot lie, His Word cannot be broken, do you believe this over everything else you believe? All worldly justice and court and proceedings all stem from the Law of God who ordained the law of our lands from His principles revealed throughout the old and new testament revelations. I have chosen several pieces of lawful evidence for you to sincerely and byt he lawful method seek to overturn by your defence preparation that you may reach a satisfactory conclusion of the truth and nothing but the truth and by The Book, The Word of God for yourself alone. Please earnestly examine all the verses and chapters presented to reach a true and unbiased verdict. 1st point/lawful witness: Malachi 4:7 THE END OF THE PROPHETS There is no verse 7 in Malachi 4, the book is the last book of the prophets marking the end of prophets for The sole Chosen Prophet to come our Lord Jesus Christ, The New and Everlasting Covenant. 2nd point/lawful witness: 2 Chronicles 4:6 KJV 6 He made also ten lavers, and put five on the right hand, and five on the left, to wash in them: such things as they offered for the burnt offering they washed in them; but the sea was for the priests to wash in. In my Mormon King James Bible the chapter heading stated officially as it is taught today by the LDS leadership speaking for God as they profess the divine authority that the “sea” is the baptismal font in the restored lds temple to perform baptisms for the dead on the back of twelve oxen, but as the Word of God states unequivocally that the sea was for the priests to ceremonially wash himself in, would God make this change to baptize the dead when the dead have already been eternally judged upon the finished work of Christ upon the cross. Since that was presented to your church leadership they changed their headings to cover over this un-spotted unlawful and dishonest contradiction and this is the reason which they published immediately after it was witnessed to them. Taken from the churches website:- https://www.lds.org/scriptures/adjustments?lang=eng Adjustments The current printing masters of the 1979 edition of the King James Version of the Bible and the 1981 edition of the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price have deteriorated because of age and long use. The quality of the typeface is no longer as clear and sharp as it should be. Therefore, in the process of preparing new printing masters, the Church has taken the opportunity to make adjustments. What is your honest conclusion and did not our Lord clearly state many times in His Word that we are the Temple of God where His Holy Spirit indwells the repentant/repented believer making the need for ceremonial ordinances in the Temple to take away sins from a persons conscience upon confession and belief never to be repented of, redundant, rather than dead people who would of all had the opportunity to be saved like everyone else? 1 John 1:9 KJV 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. John 8:24 KJV 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Hebrews 9:27 KJV 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 2 Corinthians 6:16 KJV 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2 Colossians 2:6-15 KJV 6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly,triumphing over them in it. 2 Corinthians 7:10 KJV 10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of:but the sorrow of the world worketh death. Can you honestly deny these legal and lawful points presented lawfully? The answer is No you cannot for it would make you a liar by the Law of the land and by the Law given by God to Christ by Abraham and the promised seed of Israel and the seed who is Christ. This contains the main point of the evidence presented for you which clearly shows the fulfillment of all the prophets and the need of being led by prophets who all could now receive Jesus Christ as their living head and authority and Word and the fulfillment of the old testament covenant to Israel for the temporary remission of sins by blood sacrifice, done away with and the need for a temple being fulfilled by Christ solely by himself alone, the new and everlasting covenant, which temple He again will restore for His millennial reign from Jerusalem after this worlds end. Please examine all the scriptures to follow carefully and honestly and in faith and prayer trusting in God alone at His Word to guide you by The Holy Spirit upon your conscience. These will clearly show that there is absolutely No need for Prophets today or The Temple and it’s ordinances for salvation and the forgiveness of sins today by them, simply because our Lord Jesus Christ completed His work once and forever which is the free gift of eternal life. Acts 20:21 KJV 21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. Acts 2:21 KJV 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. The main point. Hebrews 1 KJV 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made th e worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. 13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thyfootstool? 14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Hebrews 7:27 KJV 27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. Here are some more lawful points which I am losing count of to honestly review and examine. These lawful point’s cover that God has faithfully preserved His Word/Gospel as promised and it is a free gift for all to receive in their life times without the need of any other advocate or church authority and their organization established but Jesus Christ alone for eternal Salvation. Galatians 1:1-10 KJV 1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, 4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: 5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Matthew 16:18 KJV 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 1 Corinthians 10:4 KJV 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. (see 2 Samuel22 KJV) 1 Corinthians 3:11 KJV 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men,the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testifiedin due time. The Word in Paul the Apostle given for Christ to His saints who saw the resurrected Lord, becoming struck blind and humbled and who victoriously completed his bonds for Christ that we all may have the free Word of the living God preserved and presented. 2 Corinthians 11:8 KJV 8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service. Two final lawful points to reconsider about God preserving His Written Word in the Holy Bible as faithfully and lawfully promised. Question? Can the Lord be trusted? Can He be trusted at His Word? Because if we cannot trust God then who is left to trust but ourselves and Satan the Devil who has deceived all of mankind to be subject to his power and authorities ? Isaiah 40:8 KJV 8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. Psalm 12 KJV 1 Help, LORD; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men. 2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak. 3 The LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things: 4 Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us? 5 For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him. 6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. 8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted. I can wholeheartedly say along with every other saved child of God that it is hoped and prayed for daily that all Mormon members/leaderships take hold of this challenge and take hold of Christ solely and be saved and delivered from God Almighty’s wrath and judgements to come to the unbelieving and wicked on earth very shortly and to those who die unsaved before then, who will be going straight down to Hell for denying Christ at His Fathers Word sent and given which is preserved today for all mankind to receive freely. Here is my authorization on three lawful points to present this case: Psalm 149 ; Isaiah 54:14-17 ; 2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV Please feel free to copy and distribute freely for the Glory of God in our Lord Jesus Christ on condition it is kept within it’s complete present format. In the name of Jesus Christ the Lord, Amen. |
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