25 years ago, the late great Chuck Colson said something more true now than it was when he wrote it: "Our culture's sickness is far too deep for mere political remedies. Our contemporary culture needs to be reevangelized. The Christian worldview must be brought to bear in new form and forcefulness on the intellectual and moral framework of contemporary life."
Tara sharing her testimonySpeaking in Vegas
Tara and I shared at our friend Bret Johnson’s home fellowship last month to a small group of 15 to 20. Tara shared her testimony of coming out of Mormonism and coming to Christ, and I shared my lecture on “Past and Present Racism in Mormonism.” The lecture is updated and condensed to under an hour. If you watch it at 1.5 speed, you can get through it in about a half-hour. Here’s the video.
Last Video for Class is Up
Here's the last Mormonism vs. Christianity class video intro. There is also a new tab for that class on the top right of every page on both MeetTheExMormons.org and MormonInfo.org. I encourage you to take this class and encourage others to take it as well.
I added a new tab for signing up to receive our monthly newsletter on our CourageousChristiansUnited.org, MormonInfo.org, and MeetTheExMormons.org.
With Bret and Sallie Johnson
I got my application into North-West University, South Africa for doctoral studies in theology (apologetics). Please pray that I’ll be accepted and work through all the rest of the red tape.
I purchased the site AbortionIsMurder.Info. Please pray that I’ll turn this into a great site. I’ll notify you when it’s launched.
New Stickers on Our License Plate
Living in a predominantly LDS state, I’ve been bothered by our Utah license plate that says, “In God We Trust,” and “United We Stand.” I don’t like conveying the idea that it doesn’t matter what your religion is, since we all worship the same God and we are all united in Him. So I took the liberty of putting the stickers “NOT LDS GOD” underneath “In God We Trust.” People are also presented with my website bumper sticker--JosephLied.com. If you’d like to order a bumper sticker, please see HERE.
Last month I reported that I was working through the Google Ads Grant application. I am still working through this huge project. My marketing guy is a long time friend and supporter of this ministry. He’d like me to raise $550/month for him to work with managing $10K of Google Ad grants per month so that we can boost traffic to our site. Here’s a short video he put together to explain this venture further. If you’re interested in contributing, please let me know.
We Need Your Partnership!
We not only need your prayers, but we need your financial partnership as well. Keep in mind that your investment is not simply for us, but for the lives of others we reach with the gospel. The standard way to financially invest is by writing a tax-deductible check to Courageous Christians United (CCU). For more information on various ways to invest in this ministry, including online giving, please see our “Invest” page on our sites. Please keep in mind we have no financial guarantees each month. Ministry partners come and go. If you’re not a partner and are blessed by these monthly updates, please consider joining our team and let us know soon. We’d love to be your missionaries here in Utah.
For those who sign up to partner with us on a monthly basis, I will send a signed copy of the book I contributed a chapter in--Sharing the Good News with Mormons (Harvest House). Many thanks to those of you who hold us up in prayer and/or in your financial giving!
We expect God to provide for our needs through you. Why? Because the Bible is clear: “the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel” (1 Cor. 9:14).
Be strong and courageous (Joshua 1:6)!
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Always love that about you. If I had a hold up an example about a man who is stalwart and uncompromising, it would be you! God bless you
[I posted a picture of a frog, and said, “GLM!” and a leftist took the bait:] You know, for a “Christian” you sure can be a horrible person sometimes.
[I replied:] are you denying that Green Lives Matter? If so, that's horrible. https://freethinkingministries.com/if-you-think-racism-is-wrong-you-should-be-a-christian/
[He replied:] I think posts like this show you have no clue what “Black Lives Matter” even means. Or you don’t care. One of the two.
[I replied:] I know they think their biggest problem is police brutality. They've got a bigger problem with themselves when almost all the killings going on in Chicago and NY are black on black. Of course BLM, and that's what the sum total of my posts indicate. But it's also true that all lives matter, since God created all lives. However, of course some matter more than others. Those that matter most are humans, since they are in God's image despite the ethnicity. Since He made them all, it's not anyone's right to take innocent human life. You[r] contrary view on abortion is horrible, and shows that not all lives matter to you.
[He replied:] an embryo is not a human anymore than an acorn is an oak tree. I do indeed support a woman’s right to choose.
[I replied:] we've already had this discussion. The problem is that you are doing exactly what you are wrongly horrified by what I'm doing here. You are equating tree life with human life, and you are valuing the tree stage of the oak nature over it's acorn stage. The oak nature still applies to the acorn and the tree just like the human nature applies to the embryo and the adult. However, the human nature is more valuable than the acorn nature and the frog nature, btw. Of course the embryo in an adult human is human. What, do you think it's a dog embryo? What KIND of embryo is it and is it alive? You also confuse "a human" with an adult stage of a human. There are other stages of being human (e.g., a toddler). Embryo is just the initial stage of being human or any other mammal for that matter. You are very confused and that's why you are in favor of tiny living human beings being killed. You need to submit yourself to Jesus to help straighten you out. He's much smarter than we are. You make a lousy God... Submit to the Name above all other names or you'll miss the Way, the Truth, and the Life and flounder in hopelessness throughout eternity.
and btw, if George Floyd had been aborted, you wouldn't even care. Horrible!
[He replied:] yes, you’re correct there. If George Floyd had never been born, the police wouldn’t have killed him and I wouldn’t care about him because he would never have been born. But there would always be other people, like Elijah McClain, that the police would kill that I would care about.
[I replied:] you're just bigoted against police brutality over mother brutality.
[He replied:] don’t think “bigoted” is the word you’re looking for but, yes, I care more about people who are alive and have been born as opposed to unborn people.
[I replied:] btw, the human embryo's heart starts beating at 21 or 22 days.
[He replied:] I have zero desire to “submit myself” to a dude who died 2,000 years ago and who will NEVER come back to life. Jesus is dead.
Also, I never claimed to be God or a God.
[I replied:] Jesus rose on the 3rd day as the best case from history affi[r]ms. I know you never claimed to be a God, but since you're in charge of your own life, calling your own shots, that's the place you put yourself in. Leaning on your own fallible understanding. I pity and pray for you to come out of your darkness.
[He replied:] thanks. I’ll take all the positive energy sent my way.
[I replied:] love ya man!
Thank you, Rob and Tara. My thanks to every supporter of this fantastic ministry.
I wholeheartedly support your work for the Kingdom of God, as a Mormon's religion is as much their god as my fleshly desires/sexuality was mine.
Fantastic site. ...I am thankful for Christians like you that have helped me to know my God of the Bible. Do you have a YouTube channel? I am sharing videos on my FB page now. I am confessing my Lord to all that will listen. I am grateful to be a Bible believing Christian.
With the current state of our country and all the cancel culture going on, why hasnt Mormonism been attacked for its racist past and all of Joseph Smith's lies?
[I replied:] It has been. June was particularly rough on the LDS Church. Watch my talk, particularly the intro...
The Restoration of the Church of Jesus Christ and prophets being called to the earth again started with this scripture in the Bible, James 1:5-6(KJV) "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed." This is why people are asked to pray and ask God. He is the source of all truth, so if you want to know truth, you do not ask man or google, but God.
[I replied:] I did, and He told me it's of the devil.
[He replied:] Wow, I respect that! You are the first person I have ever met who has prayed to God to ask if it was true and received an answer like that. Everyone always says the Book of Mormon is from the devil but none of them have actually asked God in FAITH. That is what it says in James to ask in faith. And it seems like you actually did ask God in faith, with a pure heart and intent and received an answer different from the 16million current members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I am curious, why do you think you received a different answer?
[I replied:] well if you're asking for reasons, from all the reasons in God's word that Joshua laid out above. There's no good evidence for Mormonism and there's a ton of evidence against it. That's what my site JosephLied.com is about.
[He replied:] ok, so when you prayed God told you to make this site because the Church of Jesus Christ is of the "devil"?
[I replied:] no, that came much later.
[He replied:] oh ok👍. Well, one thing I do know is that the Book of Mormon is true. And one of my favorite scriptures is 2 Nephi 33:10 "...hearken unto these words and believe in Christ; and if ye believe not in these words believe in Christ. And if ye shall believe in Christ ye will believe in these words, for they are the words of Christ, and he hath given them unto me; and they teach all men that they should do good." It is as simple as that for me. I believe in Christ as my Savior, I have read the Book of Mormon and it has brought me closer to Jesus Christ. Those who truly believe in Jesus Christ, and are seeking for truth will find it in the Book of Mormon as it deepens our understanding of Christ. Thanks for sharing your insights, I do appreciate it and I hope you can find peace and joy in your life and help bring people closer to Christ. 😊
[I replied:] here's a talk I gave a number of years ago on the Book of Mormon...