Update on Local LDS Missionaries

I briefly talked with the LDS missionaries living near my folks last month. There is now only one missionary that my dad and I talked with back in May. The original ones we met at the beginning of April are both gone. There is now a new one from San Diego. It seems that their Church keeps transferring the one who has been around longer every six weeks or so. My dad surmises that this may be a result of the Church not wanting them to build deep relationships with those they minister to or even with each other.

MormonInfo.org/JosephLied.com Facebook Page

Our Facebook page has been growing quite a bit as of late since Facebook changed its rules on who can join public pages. We used to be quite restrictive in who we let in by requiring everyone answer 3 questions. Now anyone may join. However, in order to regulate spammers to a large extent, posts must still pass through us admins before they are public. As a result of this Facebook change, I have had much more interaction with people there, including LDS missionaries. 

Classic Tracts are Online

One of our board members and good friend, Aaron Shafovaloff, got me to post all my old classic tracts (and some papers/articles) that I have been collecting for almost 40 years now. This was a huge project! I was using my old scanner for some of them. Aaron told me about a new Adobe PDF scan app, but I thought it sounded too technical and time consuming. Well, the next day, my scanner was no longer compatible and I was forced to get the app. I’m so glad I did! It makes the tracts look so much better and it really makes loading them easy. If you are interested in reading them or even printing them out to distribute, please check them out on our Tracts pages at CourageousChristiansUnited.org, MormonInfo.org, JWinfo.org, MuhammadLied.Info, and AbortionIsMurder.Info. Aaron has referred to this as a “Gold mine.” Also, if you have any old tracts that don’t have a copyright on them and are not already up online, PLEASE send them to me to post!


We had our friend Alex Glaser from church come to share his testimony last month at our monthly Feast & Testimony fellowship. Alex did a great job. However, he did not want his testimony videoed given his concern of certain close LDS individuals to him finding it and watching it.

Hosting Another Testimony

Trudy Stubbs gave me her written testimony of coming out of Mormonism and coming to Christ, so I posted it last month on our MormonInfo.org Testimonies page. As a reminder, if you would like your testimony of coming out of Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, or Islam, please send it to me.

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Be strong and courageous (Joshua 1:6)!



Rob Sivulka
President, Courageous Christians United
P.O. Box 1374
West Jordan, UT 84088
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I am an ex-mormon. It's been about 4 years and I'm just barely starting to find Christ's light in my life. I feel like I'm here to help other Mormons find the truth as well. I would like to create an Outreach Center here in southeastern Idaho. What would you recommend to do to get started?

[I replied:] I praise the Lord for giving you eyes to see. I would not recommend you jumping into an outreach ministry at this time. I think your conversion to Christ needs a good grounding that a good Christian Bible teaching church will provide. "But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" (2 Peter 3:18). If you're ever in the SLC area the second Saturday of the month, please come to our monthly fellowship: http://www.meettheexmormons.org/. It would be great to have you share your testimony sometime here.

Your bro,R


I heard recently that nelson had recently changed portions of the temple ceremony especially related to woman and the veil.  So I was curious if you knew about those changes.  Thank you for any thoughts you can provide.

[I replied:] Things change all the time. They also just removed the Becoming Like God essay from the Gospel Topics. As far as I know, the most recent changes to the temple were last year: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/first-presidency-temple-message-july-2020. Just got this… :

“In 2019 they removed the string from the mens hats, and stopped making the women veil their faces or swear to obey their husbands. In 2020, they stopped saying, ‘We desire all to receive it,’ and go around giving everyone the handshakes. Now only the witness couple are given the handshake and everyone just watches.

That’s pretty much it.

Here’s an audio recording from Jan. 2019: https://youtu.be/7VOb0XNjdXE

With all changes color coded.”


I left in 1995...I've watched this decline & have been aware of it for some time. I cannot thank enough, the Christian Apologists who have exposed much about the LDS. Sandra Tanner, Matt Slick, Rob Sivulka, Aaron Shafovaloff, and Bill McKeever ...I own them a great debt of gratitude. I thank God for them. The work they have done has truly changed the world as your research clearly demonstrates. Well done!

I am interested in becoming a Mormon just unsure and don’t have peace yet I was raised Independent Fundamentalist Baptist… all my life it was drilled into me daily I drilled it into my kids as I was taught yet not once did I believe the Scriptures the Christians I knew talk the talk yet never walk in the Light of Jesus Christ !!! they were miserable and their rules was beyond belief It was a miserable life for me and my family I went to a church for over 10 years yet now been shunned from those churches … left a bad taste in my mouth been in the dark a scary place for 13 years then one day the Elders asked if I wanted to have Bible Study on fb and I was so stoked I have begged so many people to help me understand the Truth of the Scriptures

I enjoyed the Mormons they are full of joy peace mild mannered soft spoken I want to take on those Characteristics !!! I feel like I finally have a family no more yelling cursing just happiness something I never knew among other Christians I was raised with

I do not really know the truths of their beliefs ?!? For I am new to their way of life !!!
I know I have been praying and have found no peace on the matter

[I replied:] please visit my site which this discussion board is based on... MormonInfoDotOrg. Please at least read the Home page chart of differences. I'm sorry about your bad experience. That doesn't mean every Christian church is that way. And keep in mind, no one is perfect except Jesus. Keep your focus on Him, and when you do, you'll see Mormons have a false Christ. Satan appears as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:3-4, 13-15). God bless!

[She replied:] Wow !!!
In verse 14 of ll Corinthians is exactly what someone quoted to me that why I asking questions and found this site
Thank you so much !!! They were just the Sweetest people yet I never got the whole truth from them

[I replied:] I know. Most all my in-laws are LDS. You can't out-nice Mormons

[She replied:] my mother just told me today they put most Christians to shame !!! that’s sad !!!!



Thank you for sending me the JosephLied[.com] bumper sticker. It is proudly affixed to our PT Cruiser right above the Utah plates. ...Blessing upon you and your family -- I am glad you are such a bold minister of truth.

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